{"id":530,"date":"2007-03-25T17:34:58","date_gmt":"2007-03-25T22:34:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2007\/03\/contrer-le-dilemme-du-prisonnier\/"},"modified":"2007-03-25T17:34:58","modified_gmt":"2007-03-25T22:34:58","slug":"contrer-le-dilemme-du-prisonnier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2007\/03\/contrer-le-dilemme-du-prisonnier\/","title":{"rendered":"contrer le Dilemme du prisonnier ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/neighbourhoods.typepad.com\/neighbourhoods\/2007\/03\/collective_beha.html\">Collective behaviour and climate change: why would anybody bother?<\/a>: \u00ab\u00a0And now I&rsquo;m just catching up with a recent study by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdx.org.uk\/\">CDX<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cse.org.uk\/\">Centre for Sustainable Energy<\/a><br \/>\non <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdx.org.uk\/odds\/news1278.pdf\"><em>Mobilising individual behavioural change through community initiatives<\/em><\/a>. The study investigated &lsquo;what kinds of local and community initiatives are most effective at influencing changes in behaviour and at what levels, and whether any lessons learned from these are transferable to the issue of climate change.&rsquo;The report provokes thinking about important issues. The key message seems to be that what is lacking is &lsquo;a realistic sense of agency,&rsquo; and this is the problem to be solved. Part of the argument is that people are not motivated to take action (jointly or individually) on an issue which is not local, where their action has no immediate impact (or indeed any significant impact), and where the scale of any action taken is dwarfed by the impact of the inaction of others.\u00a0\u00bb(Via <a href=\"http:\/\/neighbourhoods.typepad.com\/neighbourhoods\/\">Neighbourhoods<\/a>.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas, <a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dilemme_du_prisonnier\">le Dilemme du prisonnier<\/a> est cet exemple de la th\u00e9orie des jeux qui fait que deux participants (prisonniers) sont conduits \u00e0 accepter des peines non n\u00e9gligeables pour \u00e9viter le risque d&rsquo;une peine tr\u00e8s longue, m\u00eame si la collaboration entre les deux leur assurerait pratiquement la libert\u00e9&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Je ne sais si cet exemple s&rsquo;applique vraiment \u00e0 notre situation actuelle devant la menace de catastrophe \u00e9cologique ? Ne pas agir maintenant garantie des lendemains plus douloureux&#8230; mais agir seul, sans impact suffisamment massif pour avoir quelque chance de changer les choses, c&rsquo;est non seulement avoir des lendemains douloureux mais un pr\u00e9sent aussi ! En effet, s&rsquo;imposer des restrictions  environnementales co\u00fbteuses dans une \u00e9conomie de march\u00e9 ouverte&#8230; c&rsquo;est s&rsquo;exposer \u00e0 perdre son march\u00e9&#8230; \u00e0 moins que&#8230; celui-ci \u00e9volue vers plus d&rsquo;\u00e9thique ?<\/p>\n<p>Tout seul ?! Faudra-t-il attendre que la situation nous chauffe vraiment les fesses pour que d\u00e9mocratiquement les d\u00e9cisions soient prises ? J&rsquo;ai l&rsquo;impression qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;est pas tellement loin de \u00e7a&#8230; mais encore, les d\u00e9cisions contraignantes \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9chelle internationale, qui les prendra ? Y a-t-il des pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents qui nous permettraient d&rsquo;esp\u00e9rer ? L&rsquo;interdiction de certains produits chimiques ? L&rsquo;exemple de notre incapacit\u00e9 collective \u00e0 g\u00e9rer les ressources halieutiques&#8230; n&rsquo;est pas rassurant.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 creuser : g\u00e8ne \u00e9go\u00efste (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.fr\/G%C3%A8ne-%C3%A9go%C3%AFste-Richard-Dawkins\/dp\/2738112439\">Richard Dawkins<\/a>), animaux altruistes; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.univ-tours.fr\/genet\/gen001800_fichiers\/gen001800.htm\">\u00c9thologie et \u00e9cologie comportementale<\/a> (un cours d&rsquo;Alain Lenoir, Universit\u00e9 de Tours)&#8230; finalement, les animaux ont peut-\u00eatre plus \u00e0 nous apprendre, en mati\u00e8re de survie ?!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Collective behaviour and climate change: why would anybody bother?: \u00ab\u00a0And now I&rsquo;m just catching up with a recent study by CDX and the Centre for Sustainable Energy on Mobilising individual behavioural change through community initiatives. The study investigated &lsquo;what kinds of local and community initiatives are most effective at influencing changes in behaviour and at &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2007\/03\/contrer-le-dilemme-du-prisonnier\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> de &laquo;&nbsp;contrer le Dilemme du prisonnier ?&nbsp;&raquo;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"atmosphere_disabled":false,"atmosphere_custom_text":"","_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[],"tags":[12,23,131,26,36],"class_list":["post-530","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-environnement","tag-philosophie","tag-politique","tag-polis","tag-techno"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":479,"url":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2006\/10\/changer-lorganisation-ou-adapter-les-mthodes-et-les-flux-dinformation\/","url_meta":{"origin":530,"position":0},"title":"changer l&#039;organisation ou adapter les m&#233;thodes et les flux d&#039;information ?","author":"Gilles Beauchamp","date":"28 octobre 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Principles of Knowledge Management (for organizations with no KM resources): \"Many organizations (especially large ones) also deal with dysfunctional information behaviours caused by inappropriate processes (especially reward processes), office politics, lack of awareness, and faulty sense-making skills. 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