{"id":768,"date":"2008-05-23T10:59:22","date_gmt":"2008-05-23T15:59:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2008\/05\/appartenance-et-departenance\/"},"modified":"2008-05-23T10:59:22","modified_gmt":"2008-05-23T15:59:22","slug":"appartenance-et-departenance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2008\/05\/appartenance-et-departenance\/","title":{"rendered":"appartenance et &quot;d\u00e9partenance&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00c7a fait longtemps que je n&rsquo;\u00e9tais pas all\u00e9 du c\u00f4t\u00e9 du blog de Dave Pollard, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.salon.com\/0002007\/\">How to save the world<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.downes.ca\/cgi-bin\/page.cgi?post=44559\">Un billet de Stephen<\/a> Downes, cet autre infatiguable blogueur canadien, m&rsquo;a amen\u00e9 l\u00e0: <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.salon.com\/0002007\/2008\/05\/12.html\">Love, Conversation, Community Vs Nobody But Yourself<\/a>. Sa vision (mais c&rsquo;est secondaire dans le propos de Pollard) d&rsquo;une nature primitive qui se moque de ce que pensent les autres :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In a natural world, perhaps, no one would or should care what other people thought about their wild ideas, eccentricities, authentic and unique characteristics.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>m&rsquo;a rappel\u00e9 qu&rsquo;au contraire, du point de vue de l&rsquo;\u00e9volution neurophysiologique, la capacit\u00e9 d&rsquo;interpr\u00e9ter et de comprendre ce que voient et pensent les autres a \u00e9t\u00e9 une \u00e9tape importante dans la construction de Sapiens sapiens (voir <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scienceshumaines.com\/index.php?lg=fr&amp;id_parution=299\">Comment Homo est devenu sapiens<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Ce qui n&rsquo;enl\u00e8ve rien \u00e0 la pertinence de la question : comment appartenir, converser, aimer une communaut\u00e9 (une personne) tout en restant libre, authentique&#8230; Comment promouvoir le changement sans s&rsquo;\u00e9loigner, se mettre \u00e0 dos les autres&#8230; De l&rsquo;amour inconditionnel ? La promotion du changement n&rsquo;est-ce pas poser des conditions ?? Mais si le changement promu l&rsquo;est par un renforcement positif il peut y avoir coincidence: acceptation inconditionnelle et respect de la libert\u00e9 de l&rsquo;autre&#8230; tout en sugg\u00e9rant, proposant, soutenant des avenues qui ne sont pas des conditions.<\/p>\n<p>Dans la vraie vie, cependant, il y a une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 qui n&rsquo;est pas toujours \u00ab\u00a0amour\u00a0\u00bb mais bien parfois (souvent) contrainte, mort, douleur.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00c7a fait longtemps que je n&rsquo;\u00e9tais pas all\u00e9 du c\u00f4t\u00e9 du blog de Dave Pollard, How to save the world. Un billet de Stephen Downes, cet autre infatiguable blogueur canadien, m&rsquo;a amen\u00e9 l\u00e0: Love, Conversation, Community Vs Nobody But Yourself. Sa vision (mais c&rsquo;est secondaire dans le propos de Pollard) d&rsquo;une nature primitive qui se &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2008\/05\/appartenance-et-departenance\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> de &laquo;&nbsp;appartenance et &quot;d\u00e9partenance&quot;&nbsp;&raquo;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"atmosphere_disabled":false,"atmosphere_custom_text":"","_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[],"tags":[37,19,23],"class_list":["post-768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-apprendre","tag-neuro","tag-philosophie"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4233,"url":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2012\/09\/neanderthal-cromagnon\/","url_meta":{"origin":768,"position":0},"title":"la rencontre N\u00e9andertal &#8211; Cromagnon","author":"Gilles Beauchamp","date":"24 septembre 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"there is every reason to think that modern humans\u00a0thrived\u00a0during wet periods in North Africa and the Levant (~135-115 ka and ~105-75 ka). the post-70ka climatic deterioration is a really bad time for people to be venturing into Asia out of Africa; the coastal migration theory is off, because it doesn't\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans \"anthropologie\"","block_context":{"text":"anthropologie","link":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/tag\/anthropologie\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1451,"url":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2008\/12\/plus-fort\/","url_meta":{"origin":768,"position":1},"title":"au plus fort la poche","author":"Gilles Beauchamp","date":"9 d\u00e9cembre 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Tous ces d\u00e9bats, fort distrayants par ailleurs, sur les gouvernements minoritaires, coalitions et accusations de coup d'\u00c9tat... mettent en lumi\u00e8re \u00e0 quel point notre culture d\u00e9mocratique est essentiellement bas\u00e9e sur le \"respect du plus fort\" et non, contrairement \u00e0 ce qu'on pr\u00e9tend, sur le respect de la majorit\u00e9. 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Parlant de Pollard, je me demande comment il fait pour \u00e9crire de si\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans \"politiques\"","block_context":{"text":"politiques","link":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/tag\/polis\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":4419,"url":"https:\/\/gillesenvrac.ca\/carnet\/2013\/02\/grosse-tete-petit-coeur\/","url_meta":{"origin":768,"position":4},"title":"grosse t\u00eate, petit coeur","author":"Gilles Beauchamp","date":"12 f\u00e9vrier 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Une exp\u00e9rience avec des poissons de l'esp\u00e8ce Guppy (Poecilia reticulata) met en lumi\u00e8re le prix \u00e0 payer pour avoir la grosse t\u00eate : de plus petits intestins (et une moins grande capacit\u00e9 reproductive). 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